Andrea Innocenti On Monday, September 21st at 13:5 PM, Pulp Podcast hosted Beppe Grillo , co-founder of the Five Star Movement, for an interview that immediately sparked media attention. The program, hosted by Fedez and Mr. Marra, became a veritable stage for statements: from support for his convicted son Ciro, to scathing criticism of the party he founded, to suggestions for a possible new political project.
The Ciro Grillo case and his father's defense
Grillo's son, Ciro Grillo, is serving an eight-year sentence for a gang rape in Sardinia . Despite the sentence, his father has chosen to speak out, describing the young man as someone who has always cultivated academic excellence: "He graduated with honors, has an extraordinary wife, and a wonderful daughter."
Grillo emphasized that Ciro is currently studying to become a criminal defense lawyer, aiming to proclaim his innocence to the world and even defend himself. This paternal attitude was presented as a plea to not forget the possibility of redemption, while maintaining an awareness of the gravity of the crime.
Grillo's accusations against the 5 Star Movement and Conte
In the same speech, Grillo leveled a series of harsh criticisms at the Five Star Movement, now led by Giuseppe Conte . He called the party "another thing" and attributed its current leadership to Reverend Jones, whom he called "the man who whispered about quibbles." The former guarantor also issued a collective warning: " We are heading towards extraordinary chaos ." In his words, the current leadership suffers from "progressive mental paralysis" and lacks concrete ideas. These statements represent a clear departure from the original M5S project, signaling a profound break with the party Grillo helped found.
Hypothesis of a new political project and Fabio Cappa's transfer coup
Criticism immediately fueled rumors of Grillo's possible return to politics with an independent list, supposedly positioned to the left of the progressive camp. No official announcement was made, but interest was fueled by a curious incident: Fabio Cappa, a freelancer from the province of Aosta, purchased the .it and .com domains associated with the "Movimento Zero Stelle" for the modest sum of €5,50 . Cappa explained that he acted to "get ahead of the curve" after seeing the report on Grillo's possible political return. He clarified that he had no ties to the founder and that he does not profit from politics, emphasizing his work for an Austrian bank and his interest in sustainable finance.
The Pulp Podcast and the date of the interview
The interview was published in the Pulp Podcast episode broadcast on September 21st at 13 p.m. At the time, Grillo also stated that he felt " a posthumous version of my living self ," highlighting that many of his past proposals are still emerging in the current political landscape. The tone of the interview was described by some observers as a mix of self-defense and the advancement of an alternative political vision, a clear sign of dissent from the current leadership of the Movement.
Overall, the episode offered a glimpse of a Beppe Grillo who, more than a decade after his rise to power, remains determined to make his voice heard, both in defense of his son and in support of the leadership of the party he helped create. The combination of personal statements, institutional criticism, and speculation about his political future makes this talk a must-read for those closely following the evolution of the Italian political landscape.